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13th-Aug-2009 10:31 pm
I have a somewhat wallet-damaging addiction to buying witty t-shirts.

Seriously. I own 22 and have another 7 coming. Er. Threadless loves me.

It's so bad, in fact, that I've been hemming and hawwing over buying this shirt for the past half hour.

You see, "cherry" doesn't rhyme with "fairy" when I say it. It rhymes with ferry, very, berry and sherry. But not fairy. Not at all. And "Montana" doesn't rhyme with "banana" in my accent either. So, whilst I adore the idea, the execution isn't quite perfect. And this bugs me.

Solutions to this debacle:

a) step away from the online store. Just go. Run, if needs must.
b) buy it and then adopt an American accent whenever wearing said shirt.
c) deliberately mispronounce all words, thereby rendering the message of the shirt null and void.
d) create a knock-off with accent-appropriate replacements.
13th-Aug-2009 01:17 pm (UTC)
I'm slightly bemused as to the type little veg that is shouting "escape". Of course, I could just be having a senior moment.

And, personally, I'd go with d), mainly because I think the rhymes are weird as well.
13th-Aug-2009 01:19 pm (UTC)
It's a grape. *snerk*
13th-Aug-2009 02:08 pm (UTC)
Definitely a senior moment there!!!

(ooh, I feel sheepish...)
13th-Aug-2009 02:10 pm (UTC)
I spent half an hour sounding out words to see if I could make them rhyme without resorting to imitation. No need to feel sheepish, honestly. I've done much worse.
13th-Aug-2009 02:03 pm (UTC)
I usually think of awesome slogans and have them printed at the local copy shop. Way cheaper than the official stuff and you can choose the colours you want.
13th-Aug-2009 02:08 pm (UTC)
And this is when Eumel remembers that Loz lives nowhere near a copy shop. ;)
13th-Aug-2009 07:02 pm (UTC)
Ah, details...

You have time enough to make your own letters during your very long evenings.
13th-Aug-2009 03:13 pm (UTC)
I can't buy any more threadless t's because my dresser drawer is full. But I want this one http://www.threadless.com/product/570/A_is_for_Jerks

How can Montana not rhyme with banana? tana and nana? This deserves a voice post.

13th-Aug-2009 03:21 pm (UTC)
My wardrobe is getting pretty full.

I wore my 'alphabet animals' to school today and had kids constantly poking my chest pointing to the first letter of their name :/

This is for you: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JGHJH26Q
13th-Aug-2009 03:48 pm (UTC)
Um. . .still sounds like a rhyme to me. Is the stress on the wrong syllables? I'm conditioned through popular song lyrics to put up with that.

I have the alphabet animals vinyl wall art in my classroom. It makes for some interesting conversations.
13th-Aug-2009 10:19 pm (UTC)
If it's a rhyme (which? it isn't in my book), it's still imperfect. And popular song lyrics, and some poets, deliberately fudge it.
14th-Aug-2009 12:27 am (UTC)
That's what I mean about popular song lyrics- they train the ear to put up with forced rhyme. Banana and Montana rhyme perfectly to me even when I hear you say them, and I don't hear a difference between fairy and ferry. This has lead to mild confusion (and poor spelling) on my part, but nothing like the confusion I run into by not hearing the difference between pin and pen.

When I was in college the first time around, there were lots of kids from Taiwan at school. And they would wear t-shirts with the slogans in, ostensibly, English. These witty slogans made no sense to us, and we were never clear what they made of them. Maybe this t-shirt could be worn in that spirit. I think threadless may have a better one for that purpose, though, with the witty slogan written in Chinese.

What does rhyme with banana then?
14th-Aug-2009 06:48 am (UTC)
Well, there, it just seems like you're not taking into account the different sounds that 'ana' and 'arna' make.

My students say 'pin' for pen a lot of the time.

Not much actually rhymes with banana perfectly in my accent. Well, Santana, but then, I'm saying that differently than you would (for you it'd rhyme with Montana, I'm guessing?)
14th-Aug-2009 12:24 pm (UTC)
Santana definitely rhymes with Montana.
14th-Aug-2009 12:27 pm (UTC)
which word has the r?
14th-Aug-2009 12:30 pm (UTC)
When I say "banana" it doesn't come off as "ban-anna" it comes off as "buh-narna" --- as you heard! It's not an actual r, and certainly not an American r, but in my accent the sound is different, the stress is different, they don't rhyme.
14th-Aug-2009 12:43 pm (UTC)
when I studied Japanese, the professor told me in a heavy Japanese accent that I had an accent problem. I thought it was pretty funny. In Japanese, the word banana has the same vowel in every syllable: バナナ

maybe I can hear you say nar, but my brain is auto-correcting.
14th-Aug-2009 12:47 pm (UTC)
I am glad it's not just me being totally nuts :D

Just like some people can't distinguish easily between faces, some can't between accents. That might be you!
14th-Aug-2009 01:14 pm (UTC)
I don't think it's about distinguishing accents- different accents sound different. I think it's more to do with differentiating a speech sound I didn't hear in my infancy. Your nar is not in my phonological tuning.

Banana got an r sometimes within my hearing. I heard people say it bananer so the end is like banner. Those same people would call my friend Melisser.
13th-Aug-2009 06:20 pm (UTC)
Okay, now I want the t-shirt. But cherry doesn't rhyme with fairy. And banana does NOT have a t in it so how on earth can it rhyme with Montana? I'm actually seriously tempted to create the knock off t-shirt with actual rhyming words. Although Stephen Fry on QI said two words rhyme with Orange but I don't think places count. er... *runs and hides*
14th-Aug-2009 07:00 am (UTC)
I remember them, how sad is that?

Also, HI YOU. Where've you been?
14th-Aug-2009 08:44 am (UTC)
Not sad at all.

Yep, HI! I've been internetless for months as my flatmate cut me off after I managed to use 200GB of internet in 1 month. *oops* I had to save my pennies to get a new phone line installed so I could buy internet but I don't get my student loans anymore as I graduated in July. 1.3 marks short of the grade I wanted! So now, I'm working for an autistic woman in a wheelchair who has the ability to make me cry over the phone, swears at me (which I'm sure is illegal but since with the medication she's on she could get away with murdering her husband I better not push it) and then is as nice as pie the next day (and it's supposed to be her husband who is the bipolar one). So, working minimus wage for her whilst trying to get the Uni to accept me again so I can do a Masters. My employer was supposed to be helping me as I employ her as my learning mentor to help with my learning difficulties and my mental health issues, she's been saying she'll get me diagnosed by specialists for over two years but I doubt it will ever happen. Anyway, my employer/employee has decided to take the whole of August off. All the time, I'm missing my old flat-mate terribly as we lived together for three years and now he's gone. Reality sucks!

Yay for internet!

(sorry for the rant but I *really* needed it)

13th-Aug-2009 07:18 pm (UTC)
Heh, this is why my Argentinan friend declared that Chase('s actor) and Cary Elwes have the same accent and left me spluttering "Australian and English sound nothing like each other!!!" XD XD

But yeah, though it's not how I pronounce Banana, I could let that go, but it would be "chair-y" for that to work for me and with it being the first thing on the t-shirt I would struggle to realise the point as the wearer walked past me... (I'm a tad slow sometimes...)

I say knock off time! \o/
13th-Aug-2009 10:27 pm (UTC)
Some English and Australians have similar accents, sure, but those two? No. No!

13th-Aug-2009 08:34 pm (UTC)
But does "Hannah" rhyme with "Montana" in your accent, or did they not export Billy Ray's daughter to Australia for that reason? If the latter, then I envy you. {g}
13th-Aug-2009 10:21 pm (UTC)

Hannah Montana crap is everywhere over here. But I've never seen the show.
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