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19th-Aug-2007 11:09 am
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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

This is the positive post. The things that made me squeak with enjoyment and joy. It contains spoilers, obviously.

I absolutely adored Dudley. I really did. I had hoped that would happen, from early on. And it did and I punched the air in victory.

Seven Potters! Oh my.

Nagini in Bathilda Bagshot was so macabre. That sequence doesn't quite work for me, but the notion of Nagini wearing Bagshot as a coat is so disturbing, I'm willing to give it a reprieve. I love how horrific that is, I truly do.

As I've said, whilst the tenting around Britain and Grimmauld place parts could have been handled better, there was some absolute golden dialogue that pleased me immensely.

Kreacher --- was interesting. I never once expected that, actually, so that was a big shock. A welcome shock. Some of the reinforcing was a touch overdone, but, overall, I appreciated that Kreacher was redeemed.

Whilst I obviously take exception to a lot of what we found out about Dumbledore - or rather, that we're now supposed to still like him and forgive him - I loved learning all of those things. And I never expected it, but Rita Skeeter's totally disturbing and awful thoughts regarding the possibility between Harry and DD's relationship was sort of wonderful - especially Harry's reaction. Mmm. I really liked how much Grindelwald mattered - since he was a bit of a throwaway reference that was obviously deeply significant.

NEVILLE IS A GOD AND I LOVE HIM. Seriously. Neville. And Luna! They were just brilliant. But, yes. Neville.

Snape. I actually really loved the scenes between him and Lily, from the memories. It's obvious that he was brave, but stupid. The best way to get your muggle-born love interest to adore you is to impress her by making friends with pure-blood supremacists! Of course! Snape, you so silly.

The richness of detail. There was a lot there that was just ace - so many tidbits. That's something that JKR did brilliantly - world build. And sure, there are inconsistencies and contradictions - but, hello, look at the world.

Although I thought it was done a little too much, I kind of adored the references to the other books and grinned wildly at them.

And Harry. Harry is just absolutely my favourite character in his universe. He really is. He's such an understated hero, in so many ways. I mean, obviously not exactly understated - there are seven books dedicated to him - but, from his perspective. He just does what he has to do, for the ones he loves. And yes, he has flaws, and yes, they're annoying - so he's not this perfect cardboard cutout. But he's just wonderful. I come away from the Harry Potter books truly believing that Harry is amazing and that he deserves every positive thing the world can throw at him.

I really did enjoy reading the book. Sometimes I enjoyed it for the wrong reasons, but I still found it very entertaining. And whilst I could (and probably will, in my own, quiet way), spend forever analysing and picking apart - I actually think that's a lot of points in JKR's favour - that she wrote something, a series of somethings, that contain so much that you can discuss them - sometimes so passionately. That's what you strive to do.

ETA: Names beginning with 'B' confuse the ever living crap out of me.
19th-Aug-2007 12:19 pm (UTC)
It wasn't Bertha Jorkins, she died off-stage in book four. I can't actually remember the woman's name but it had Bs in it and it wasn't Bertha Jorkins. =P

The camping around in forests got tedious after a while, and there was about four paragraphs where I actually considered putting the book down until the next day, but then I remembered the bet with one of my friends about Snape (I had money on him being good, because dude, it was so obvious it was hardly betting at all. On that note, I would like to add that I figured out the silver doe was Snape's patronus immediately, a fact that I have obnoxiously boasted about ever since).

Harry really doesn't get enough love in fandom, really, considering he's the hero of the books. But yes, NEVILLE = ♥♥♥
19th-Aug-2007 12:37 pm (UTC)
Dude, thank you! I clearly have Bertha on the brain. It was Bathilda Bagshot. EEE. Y'know, I never would have made that mistake a couple of years ago.
19th-Aug-2007 12:39 pm (UTC)
19th-Aug-2007 04:42 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I like it too!

I can forgive Dumbledore. I mean, the guy spent his whole life trying to make up for it, and it explains his thing about giving other people second chances too. It made him more human, and I think Harry needed Dumbledore to be human, because otherwise how could he ever take over from him as chief opponent of Voldemort?

I adored this book from beginning to end, despite the continuity mistakes and Kreacher's somewhat unbelievable transformation!
20th-Aug-2007 08:30 am (UTC)
I think --- I'm glad you see him that way, but I don't. Maybe one day I will.
21st-Aug-2007 12:57 pm (UTC)
And his obsession with choices.

I'm not sure I've totally come to terms with it. What I found harder, though, was that even though Harry felt angry - with himself, for not asking Dumbledore more, with Dumbledore for not telling him so much - he remained unswervingly, Dumbledore's man, through and through. The decision to follow the horcruxes over the hallows because Dumbledore had told him to; blindly walking to his death... The fact that, if you want to look at the King's Cross scene as his thoughts on the whole thing and not Dumbledore's spirit visiting him, the wise leader he pictured imparting the knowledge was STILL Dumbledore (not Moody or Kingsley, not his parents, or Remus or Sirius...). Placing that much faith in somebody against those odds...
21st-Aug-2007 01:10 pm (UTC)
There is a whole parable about faith and doubt just there in your comment! Harry was, in a way, questioning his faith as grew up and had to go it alone, but in the end he worked out what was important to him, what he needed to know, and what he was prepared to just take on faith. Having reached that point, even when he thought Dumbledore wanted him to die, he went along with it willingly because he trusted Dumbledore enough to know that was what it would take to destroy Voldemort. There's a parallel to Abraham preparing to sacrifice Isaac here as well as the more obvious Jesus parallel. But mostly I think it's about growing from the simple faith of childhood to a mature adult faith - when your beliefs become your own and not simple acceptance of what you were taught.
21st-Aug-2007 01:15 pm (UTC)
Mmm. But I think that unswerving faith is what has lead to some of the world's problems. That inability to believe in another solution.

Sure, it worked out this time. But I'm not sure the message I want to send out to kids is to follow blindly, unquestioningly. It makes me uncomfortable, thinking that this is what's being reinforced. Because that isn't a choice. Not really.
21st-Aug-2007 01:21 pm (UTC)
Well, I think the point was that Harry didn't accept unquestioningly. He had this whole crisis of faith in Dumbledore, but managed to sort things out and decide for himself what to do. That seems like a positive message to me.
21st-Aug-2007 01:21 pm (UTC)
I think it could just be the fact that Snape's reaction to the knowledge that Harry was going to be sent to the slaughter was almost larger than Harry's! I'm not saying he took it lightly; just...

I think though you've put a finger on my problem - I'm not the biggest fan of blind faith against all the odds, in the face of hard facts that would appear to contradict said faith. While I respect that other people can and do... I don't think many people's religious faith has been tried like Harry's faith in Dumbledore was over that year. The survival instinct in people is strong, and choosing to go to your death like that?? I mean, Jesus wept tears of blood that night in the garden of Gesthemane! Harry regarded asking if dying hurt as childish.
21st-Aug-2007 01:16 pm (UTC)
That was exactly what worried me, when it comes down to it.
20th-Aug-2007 06:10 am (UTC)
Neville has bullocks of bloody steel that boy does.

I'm glad you enjoyed it even so. :)
20th-Aug-2007 08:31 am (UTC)
20th-Aug-2007 02:01 pm (UTC)
I was cheering for Neville, too.

And, yeah, Dudley. I actually teared up when he was gracious to Harry. Then mentioned this to the friend whom I was visiting (and whose book I borrowed because JKR sells enough books without me) and she had done the same. There's a good kid in there who's been spoiled rotten but perhaps will manage to be a good adult.
21st-Aug-2007 08:34 am (UTC)
I teared up too. It was the only time, in fact. Dudley was unexpected and brilliant.
20th-Aug-2007 05:39 pm (UTC)
I second every happy thought you have about the book! Neville is so fing awesome and I love him dearly and oh my god Dudley and seven Harrys (moo...) and weeeeeeeeeeee good times. (Yay!)
21st-Aug-2007 08:28 am (UTC)
I kid you not, immediately after reading your LJ I went, "Oh, Sheena's going to kill me for not being a fluffy bunny". So this post was kind of for you. Hee.

Neville is made of absolute win. I can't get over how much he rocks. And Harry! HARRY HARRY HARRY HARRY HARRY AND ANOTHER HARRY. ... ! LLL.
22nd-Aug-2007 06:17 pm (UTC)
Haha... Well I never really expected you to love it considering your decline in HP love so there will be no killing. I didn't read your negative post btw because you know I avoid that stuff. :p

...! Bwahaha. The whole time during that part I was thinking OMIGOD I hope Loz is going to read this soon so we can giggle about this!
20th-Aug-2007 07:50 pm (UTC)
I want to offer a more in-depth reply but don't have time right now. However, I'll say I agree with all the happy feelings you had about this book. Some of the bad, too.

Oh, and another happy feeling of happiness I had: I adored the twins, moreso than I did before (and I already adored them). Why?

Because there was constantly ratcheting tension, and then more tension, and topped off with a syrup of pure distilled TENSION and then the joke about being a saint and I nearly died laughing. Seriously. And my heart exploded with love. XD
21st-Aug-2007 08:33 am (UTC)

Yes. They were in fine form.

I... oh, George. See? I should have been bawling over Fred, because I adore him.
21st-Aug-2007 12:59 pm (UTC)
If it helps, I'm blinking back tears over Fred atm. coz I'm at work and bawling over a fictional book that I read a month ago would probably not go down well...
21st-Aug-2007 02:16 pm (UTC)
Aha. Here were my thoughts just after reading. :) And before I stepped into the gaping chasmic abyss of rionaleonhart's "let's cross over EVERYTHING EVER with Silent Hill" challenge, which proceeded to completely eat my brain right after that. XD
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