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As based on a comment I just got on one of my fics... 
19th-Feb-2013 05:40 pm
Loz Cola
Fanfiction is purely for escapism and reality has no place: discuss.

I disagree. Fanfiction, like all fiction, has a range of modes, genres, and atmospheres. Some stories are total escapism, some stories are gritty realism, others yet combine the two.

19th-Feb-2013 07:35 am (UTC)
Unsurprisingly, I agree with you 100%. I also object very strongly to anyone who presumes to lay down the law about what fanfiction is and isn't, and to tell me (and others) what can and cannot be written. If they object to reality that much, I can only suggest that they try to find themselves an alternate universe where everything is all flowers and kittens ... and I wish them good luck with that.
19th-Feb-2013 11:21 am (UTC)
*nods* I have to admit, the prescription of the statement made me a tad annoyed. The idea that 'fan'fiction should be any different from other fiction caused frustration too.
19th-Feb-2013 11:59 am (UTC)

You don't live in flowers and kittens land... Alien!
19th-Feb-2013 12:13 pm (UTC)
Actually, I am an alien ... and so's my kitten ...
19th-Feb-2013 12:56 pm (UTC)

The image now stuck in my head:

19th-Feb-2013 01:08 pm (UTC)
Yaaayyyy, Kitten Kong! Goodieeeeeesssss ....

Actually I have a photo somewhere proving that my kitten is really Batmite.
19th-Feb-2013 01:15 pm (UTC)

Some lovely nutters have been posting The Goodies to youtube enabling me to do very useful things like send chunks of "Sex & Violence" to a friend about to have the "birds an bees" chat with her kid. Yes, she found it very helpful. Ahem...

Interesting choice. I think if I had a cat a Perry the Platypus cossie might be the way to go.
19th-Feb-2013 07:44 am (UTC)
Did someone get annoyed at you for writing fanfic that wasn't purely escapist?

But yeah, I agree. Fanfiction is fiction. There are a lot of ways you can take it, and no law saying that it all has to be totally escapist without bringing in anything real. Yes, this means that people who like purely escapist stuff have to fish around and find authors they like instead of being able to jump into any random fic and get exactly what they want, but that's true of any form of fiction.
19th-Feb-2013 11:22 am (UTC)
I can't actually tell if they're annoyed. They basically said they both agree and disagree with the people who hated the ending to my fic, praised my characterisation, and then made the statement about fanfiction's purpose being escapism, not reality.

*narrows eyes*
19th-Feb-2013 11:37 am (UTC)
Weird. A lot of it seems to be personal taste stuff, which isn't really something you should be held responsible for, and the idea that fanfic should be escapism is just....why narrow it like that? It'd cut off a lot of really interesting stuff for a lot of people.
19th-Feb-2013 11:39 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. My very favourite fics haven't been solely escapism.
19th-Feb-2013 11:43 am (UTC)
Me too. The stuff that sticks with me always has a certain extra something to it, an edge, something that's outside the standard expectation for that kind of fic. (It's not just fluff - I'm cheap for angstfic and hurt-comfort, and by-the-numbers stuff, even when well-executed isn't as satisfying as stuff with a deeper, more original approach.)
19th-Feb-2013 08:27 am (UTC)
I agree with you. I think a lot of fanfiction doesn't work for me because it lacks reality. I don't mean the fluffy kitten sort that I read when I've had a hard day at work and just want to wallow in softness - that is escapism and I'm very happy with it that way. It's the fiction that is set in the real world, yet ignores reality and for instance implies that all human hurts can be instantly healed by a kiss from the loved one. I tend to avoid gritty realism (I can get enough of that elsewhere), but that's my choice, others are entitled to feel differently.
19th-Feb-2013 11:27 am (UTC)
Yes! I have to be in a certain mood to be happy with those fics that completely disregard emotional/social reality. I have nothing against escapism, I love it too, but I don't think fanfiction is only ever expected to provide escapism any more than any other fiction.

(I never labelled the fic that people are angry over me for with 'fluff'. It was also not full of hijinx and that much goofiness before the ending. And the characters still end up together! They never hated one another. I thought it was more romantic that they waited, but it really pissed some people off,... because it was what should have happened under the circumstances?)
19th-Feb-2013 12:03 pm (UTC)

A lovely mate recently posted a great explanation of slash from Henry Jenkins, an American media prof. and then in another comment quoted him too:

Fan fiction is a way of the culture repairing the damage done in a system where contemporary myths are owned by corporations, instead of owned by the folk.

Fan fiction often is escapist, but then so are many of the stories we tell across all sorts of formats... and then many of them aren't. The thing is, even when the story is "escapist" it often contains human truths because that's how we relate to it in the first place.

Sorry, pre-coffee.
19th-Feb-2013 12:13 pm (UTC)

And, honestly, I have nothing against escapism, I have written plenty. Like you say, I also don't think escapism is necessarily devoid of reality, so much as it couches it in a certain way.

I just... I find it a little weird that this is by no means the first comment to mention the ending being 'real' or 'realistic', but is the first to suggest "and this is why it was bad."

(I feel like if the characters hadn't chosen to wait to be paired romantically the ending would have been a hell of a lot more amoral, if not downright immoral, and therefore I'd have ended up with other commenters complaining about that. I already had one person mid-fic lambast me for creepiness. It was very much a lose-lose situation so far as pleasing everyone was concerned and I should have factored that in.)
19th-Feb-2013 01:03 pm (UTC)

Except that's an honest subjective viewpoint of the "I read fan fiction for the fantasy how dare you be logical about it all" type. And, tbh, I don't think most TW fans are drawn to TW for the gritty realism... perhaps I'm mistaken as I've only seen trailers for it. *g*

The thing is, petal, as long as you write anything at all and decide to share it with an audience then you're going to have to deal with both objective (you didn't warn as you were supposed to, you wrote "prostrate" when you meant "prostate," no, Stiles is NOT currently President of the United States) and subjective opinions and the subjective opinions will always be difficult to deal with because a "text" really is formed as a combination of the writer and reader and there's nothing to be done about it. If you takes risks in writing, and you do, it's going to happen even more.
19th-Feb-2013 04:22 pm (UTC)
Oooh, fanfiction is whatever the author decides it should be (with an eye to the desired audience, please) and anyone who doesn't like what is written can use the damned back-button. Bad practices in writing (spelling, grammar, punctuation, run-on-sentences, purple prose in non-crack-fic, etc.) and the perpetuation of bad ideas (misogyny, any -ism, bad BDSM practices, bad science, etc.) should be called out. But if some folks got a dose of gritty and they're bitching because they think every fic should be kittens and rainbows (unicorns at your discretion), or vice-versa, then they can GTFO and not let the metaphorical door hit their arse as they go.
19th-Feb-2013 06:57 pm (UTC)
Fanfiction is a form of fiction and of course (fan)fiction can be both, realist and escapist. I think it's a bit of a trollish claim.

Edited at 2013-02-19 06:58 pm (UTC)
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