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22nd-Aug-2009 10:50 pm
Life on Mars (Sam  & Gene are Partners)
From the Sydney Morning Herald (on LoM: USA and the original): "Our series was basically a love story between two men but by casting Harvey [Keitel], who is 70, you didn't believe these two men could joust in the way our Sam and Gene did, and because they had potentially 50 or more episodes to make, they opened up the cast and had a lot more characters."

Ashley Pharoah is kind of a big deal.

I love that he said this. After S2 finished, Matthew Graham was trying to suggest that the central love story of LoM was that between Sam and Annie and that just did not ring true. Yes, Sam and Annie had the sweet beginnings of a romance, but nowhere near the amount of relationship development as that of Sam and Gene. Life on Mars was, at its heart, a story about their love --- a non-sexual love, maybe, but a love story all the same. It was as much about two people with differing personalities complementing one another and learning to rely upon each other; not to mention respect, trust, and enjoy each other's company, as it was about one person finding their place. And yes. Yes! This is it.

Also, he purposefully used the word 'joust' there just because of the imagery it conjures, I swear. HEE!

When Ashley's such a winner I always feel bad about the number of times I've talked smack about him and Matthew. I do love their work so very much. Just not all of it all of the time.
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22nd-Aug-2009 02:25 pm (UTC)
Hahaha, that's fab. Thanks for sharing!!
23rd-Aug-2009 06:10 am (UTC)
You are welcome!
22nd-Aug-2009 02:50 pm (UTC)
Life on Mars was, at its heart, a story about their love --- a non-sexual love, maybe, but a love story all the same.

I agree, and it was so nice to see that Ashley feels the same way.

Keitel's Gene was a major problem for me, and Ashley's quote sums up why. I was suprised but pleased to see Keitel's own comment to Ashley: "They're f--king this up, aren't they?" Everyone involved had to make nice while the show was on the air, but now the truth comes out.
23rd-Aug-2009 06:10 am (UTC)
Everyone involved had to make nice while the show was on the air, but now the truth comes out.

Just like the first series of A2A :D

Bwaahahaha!
22nd-Aug-2009 02:52 pm (UTC)
The Same/Gene relationship arc was very like something out of a Katharine Hepburn/Spencer Tracy movie - the initial hostility/lack of respect and rivalry which gradually gives way to mutual acceptance. The Sam/Annie arc paled by comparison with the vivid way the other was depicted. It's like the rivalry and romance aspects were separated out and given to different characters - and then in A2A they were recombined and Alex performed both functions.

Of course this is not a perfect analogy because it makes Sam 'the girl' but I can quite see Gene as a kind of growly Spencer Tracy type - tough but lovable, the kind who'll have your back in a crisis, capable of surprising you with his insight/sensitivity when you least expect it.

Goes to show though that the writers' hearts were (originally) in the right place, doesn't it?
23rd-Aug-2009 06:09 am (UTC)
Goes to show though that the writers' hearts were (originally) in the right place, doesn't it?

I already knew they were. Matthew made similar (but not as explicit) comments during S1's run.

The initial hostility/lack of respect and rivalry which gradually gives way to mutual acceptance.

Yes! And there's still some hostility there, because, oh those stubborn males.
22nd-Aug-2009 03:36 pm (UTC)
Yes, yes, yes! Oh, Ashley. ♥ Thanks for posting this!
23rd-Aug-2009 06:06 am (UTC)
It was linked on mars_daily, but not everyone is a member, and this was a quote that had to be shared!
22nd-Aug-2009 06:03 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much for posting this.

I miss Sam/Gene so much - even wathing A2A is enough to drive me back to my old eps of LoM.
23rd-Aug-2009 06:05 am (UTC)
Sam and Gene together were so, so great. I loved them.
22nd-Aug-2009 06:17 pm (UTC)
vIt was as much about two people with differing personalities complementing one another and learning to rely upon each other; not to mention respect, trust, and enjoy each other's company, as it was about one person finding their place.

That was one thing I really really loved about LOM, and one reason I think so many people picked up on the slashy: because they weren't the orthodox type of friend to eachother, but they picked eachother up, slapped eachother round the face and most importantly, learned from eachother. You don't see that very often. But to learn from somebody means not only have you observed and taken in what they're doing, but have also understood why they're doing it and what it means. And that takes understanding, the thing that (IMO) lies at the heart of a true friendship.
/sentimental friendship slush

One of the reasons I like LOM Gene rather than A2A Gene is that LOM Gene would let Sam go out and make a fool of himself, and then let him come into the station, laugh at him a bit, and then forget it all. A2A Gene doesn't let many people do anything. Maybe that's why I see Sam/Gene as working better than Gene/Alex? Who knows...?
23rd-Aug-2009 06:04 am (UTC)
Yes, they learned from each other! And not everything they learned was all that good, either, which I also love. Because, yes, you do pick up bad habits from your friends.

Maybe that's why I see Sam/Gene as working better than Gene/Alex?

Maybe! I know for me it was that G/A was shoved down our throats so quickly and forcefully that it turned me completely off. Gene wanted to get into Alex' pants and that was it --- he didn't seem to respect her, or seek her opinion or judgement --- not in the first series. I really liked them together in a few episodes of the second series because it was more subtle and Gene was now looking at Alex as a person as opposed to a bit of skirt.

Edited at 2009-08-23 10:16 am (UTC)
22nd-Aug-2009 10:14 pm (UTC)
YES!

That was seriously the biggest problem with the US version. No chemistry. Blah.
23rd-Aug-2009 05:59 am (UTC)
Well, that and the remarkably dumb ending. But mostly that!
24th-Aug-2009 01:39 am (UTC)
I totally agree. I don't know if John and Phil have such good chemistry in real life but as Sam and Gene, it was brilliant. Very good point.
24th-Aug-2009 06:48 am (UTC)
They do! Watch the 'behind the scenes' on the LoM S2 DVDs. They're great together in real life too.
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